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Mistress of Whispers · Nov 04, 2007, 10:44 PM // 22:44

What's a good build for PUGs in Prophecies? I'm thinking probably monk (everybody loves a healer, unless GW is vastly different from most games), but comboed with what?

Vinraith · Nov 04, 2007, 10:49 PM // 22:49

Mesmer's a good monk secondary, as the inspiration line provides good energy management and interrupt protection. Quite a lot of good monk builds don't require any secondary at all, though, so it's not a pivotal choice.

Konrow · Nov 04, 2007, 11:24 PM // 23:24

monks are definitely the #1 concern in PUGs. Warrior or dervish tanks are also a good idea and most people look for an ele in order to nuke.Of course every class can help a ton if it is played correctly.

Omniclasm · Nov 05, 2007, 12:53 AM // 00:53

If you want to PuG....
Warrior
Elementalist
Monk
Necromancer

If you want to own:
Paragon
Monk
Necromancer
Ritualist

I Phoenix I · Nov 05, 2007, 02:05 AM // 02:05

If you want to PUGs:
Warrior
Elementalist
Monk
Necromancer

If you don't care about PUGs:
everything else

Avarre · Nov 05, 2007, 06:13 AM // 06:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omniclasm

If you want to PuG....
Warrior
Elementalist
Monk
Necromancer

If you want to own:
Paragon
Monk
Necromancer
Ritualist

This guy speaks truth!

Although with Dslash/SY!/FGJ and such, warrior can probably go on the second list too.

Div · Nov 05, 2007, 06:24 AM // 06:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistress of Whispers

What's a good build for PUGs in Prophecies?

Rephrased: What's a good build that bad players will like and accept you in their groups?

Good PUGs hardly exist anymore, and it's best you find a guild or group of friends that will accompany you in your adventures.

**Marty Silverblade** · Nov 05, 2007, 07:00 AM // 07:00

Unless you're a Warrior (for tanking), an Ele (for killing), or Monk (for healing), most PuGs don't think much of you. Just grab some henchies and pwn stuff imo. Of course if you're lucky enough to be in a good guild with good people, you can travel around with them.

Avarre · Nov 05, 2007, 07:03 AM // 07:03

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

Unless you're a Warrior (for tanking), an Ele (for killing), or Monk (for healing), most PuGs don't think much of you. Just grab some henchies and pwn stuff imo. Of course if you're lucky enough to be in a good guild with good people, you can travel around with them.

Good teams will realize that tanks (waste of a slot), ele nukers (poor dps), and healers (inefficient) are all bad. Still, you're better off being one until you get a guild or group that understands that.

arcady · Nov 05, 2007, 08:14 AM // 08:14

If I'm running the PUG I look for Mesmer first, monk second. That being because I'm usually playing a Monk. If I'm not on my Monk or my Ritualist, then I flip the other of those two.

The last thing I look for is warriors, because there are just too many of them. Last of all is a Wa/Mo combo - I'll only consider them if the zone doesn't offer up anything else. I'd take a second mesmer, not yet at proper level, before a Wa/Mo.

Wa/Mo's tend to do more harm than good. Be wary of them casting things like Heal Area while in melee, or Healing Breeze. They also tend to over-aggro...

But... a lot of less experienced players undervalue Mesmers, so you might find it hard to get into PUGs with one until you get further into the game. In my opinion they are the most dangerous member of a team. Mesmer's don't tend to kill, but they put pressure like nothing else in the game. Mesmer's go straight for the off-switch, leaving the target just standing there like a dead log.

Early on in GW, try a monk if you want groups easily. Once you start to join more experienced players, go for Mesmer.

Oh, and good PUGs do exist. I find them quite common. The more I PUG the more I realize this. I'll get a poor PUG often enough, but most of them turn out to be not at all bad, and some of them end up quite good. The more you PUG, the better you will get at it - so the further you get in the game, the more likely the people willing to PUG that far in have more experience doing it.

Redfeather1975 · Nov 05, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20

I still see people asking for MMs. So I'd say a necro for a lot of areas.
Except this is for Prophecies and the fire islands aren't for MMs.

arcady · Nov 05, 2007, 08:27 AM // 08:27

Fire Islands is Prophesies endgame. By the time a player gets that far, they'll have a lot of other ways to tool hat necromancer, and the months of play to know how to do so.

Mistress of Whispers · Nov 05, 2007, 11:22 AM // 11:22

My primary character has a less than optimal build (E/R), but she already has a group who's fine with that. But for my next character I wanted to go with a build that won't have troubles finding new groups to play with, hence wanting an "eligible" build. So thanks for the advice

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Sekkira · Nov 05, 2007, 11:57 AM // 11:57

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Originally Posted by arcady

Fire Islands is Prophesies endgame. By the time a player gets that far, they'll have a lot of other ways to tool hat necromancer, and the months of play to know how to do so.

Unless it took you months because you were diddle daddling around getting there, you're a horrible player.

Rinadan Farhunt · Nov 05, 2007, 12:05 PM // 12:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sekkira

Unless it took you months because you were diddle daddling around getting there, you're a horrible player.

Or perhaps they did side quests/explored/tried pvp/had a life. if you only do the missions and primary quests, it won't take long, but it takes a month or two (maybe more) otherwise. For getting a pug, the best bet is to be a monk

Skuld · Nov 05, 2007, 12:10 PM // 12:10

Why would you want to PuG? You'll have much more fun staying as far away from them as possible!

bungusmaximus · Nov 05, 2007, 12:21 PM // 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuld

Why would you want to PuG? You'll have much more fun staying as far away from them as possible!

Many new players need/like PUG's, they will get as cynical as we are in a year, don't be afraid :P

As to the OP, take whatever class you like the taste of, it generally boils down to this:

-Groups that don't have the imagination to acknowledge that for example: a ranger, makes a lot of difference in a PvE team are bad, so you don't want to end up with those.

-Groups that DO have the imagination have a tendency to be less bad/good, so they are more likely to get the job done.

Skuld · Nov 05, 2007, 12:44 PM // 12:44

Fine

The best profession is Not Mesmer (TM).

Mistress of Whispers · Nov 05, 2007, 03:19 PM // 15:19

I've picked up Monk for my 2nd character. I really like the feel of playing one so far, and with Smiting Prayers I can still solo without getting my butt kicked.

Quaker · Nov 05, 2007, 03:52 PM // 15:52

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Originally Posted by Mistress of Whispers

What's a good build for PUGs in Prophecies? I'm thinking probably monk (everybody loves a healer, unless GW is vastly different from most games), but comboed with what?

It's always easy to join PUGs as a healer or heal/prot monk. Basically, as a healer monk, you don't really need a secondary - you can do it quite effectively with only Monk skills. Most PUGs will assume you are a healer and won't expect (or want) you to do any attacking, so any skills you use from a secondary should only be designed to assist your healing and/or protecting ability.

Nov 05, 2007, 08:14 AM // 08:14	#10
arcady Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Francisco native Profession: Mo/P	If I'm running the PUG I look for Mesmer first, monk second. That being because I'm usually playing a Monk. If I'm not on my Monk or my Ritualist, then I flip the other of those two. The last thing I look for is warriors, because there are just too many of them. Last of all is a Wa/Mo combo - I'll only consider them if the zone doesn't offer up anything else. I'd take a second mesmer, not yet at proper level, before a Wa/Mo. Wa/Mo's tend to do more harm than good. Be wary of them casting things like Heal Area while in melee, or Healing Breeze. They also tend to over-aggro... But... a lot of less experienced players undervalue Mesmers, so you might find it hard to get into PUGs with one until you get further into the game. In my opinion they are the most dangerous member of a team. Mesmer's don't tend to kill, but they put pressure like nothing else in the game. Mesmer's go straight for the off-switch, leaving the target just standing there like a dead log. Early on in GW, try a monk if you want groups easily. Once you start to join more experienced players, go for Mesmer. Oh, and good PUGs do exist. I find them quite common. The more I PUG the more I realize this. I'll get a poor PUG often enough, but most of them turn out to be not at all bad, and some of them end up quite good. The more you PUG, the better you will get at it - so the further you get in the game, the more likely the people willing to PUG that far in have more experience doing it. Last edited by arcady; Nov 05, 2007 at 08:18 AM // 08:18..

Nov 04, 2007, 10:44 PM // 22:44	#1
Mistress of Whispers Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2007	"most eligible" What's a good build for PUGs in Prophecies? I'm thinking probably monk (everybody loves a healer, unless GW is vastly different from most games), but comboed with what?

Nov 04, 2007, 10:49 PM // 22:49	#2
Vinraith Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2006	Mesmer's a good monk secondary, as the inspiration line provides good energy management and interrupt protection. Quite a lot of good monk builds don't require any secondary at all, though, so it's not a pivotal choice.

Nov 04, 2007, 11:24 PM // 23:24	#3
Konrow Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NY, New York Guild: Warlords of Earth [WAR]	monks are definitely the #1 concern in PUGs. Warrior or dervish tanks are also a good idea and most people look for an ele in order to nuke.Of course every class can help a ton if it is played correctly.

Nov 05, 2007, 12:53 AM // 00:53	#4
Omniclasm Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Guild Hall Profession: A/	If you want to PuG.... Warrior Elementalist Monk Necromancer If you want to own: Paragon Monk Necromancer Ritualist

Nov 05, 2007, 02:05 AM // 02:05	#5
I Phoenix I Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC] Profession: R/	If you want to PUGs: Warrior Elementalist Monk Necromancer If you don't care about PUGs: everything else

Nov 05, 2007, 07:00 AM // 07:00	#8
Marty Silverblade Administrator Join Date: Jun 2006	Unless you're a Warrior (for tanking), an Ele (for killing), or Monk (for healing), most PuGs don't think much of you. Just grab some henchies and pwn stuff imo. Of course if you're lucky enough to be in a good guild with good people, you can travel around with them.

Nov 05, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20	#11
Redfeather1975 Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Apartment#306 Guild: Rhedd Asylum Profession: Me/	I still see people asking for MMs. So I'd say a necro for a lot of areas. Except this is for Prophecies and the fire islands aren't for MMs.

Nov 05, 2007, 08:27 AM // 08:27	#12
arcady Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Francisco native Profession: Mo/P	Fire Islands is Prophesies endgame. By the time a player gets that far, they'll have a lot of other ways to tool hat necromancer, and the months of play to know how to do so.

Nov 05, 2007, 11:22 AM // 11:22	#13
Mistress of Whispers Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2007	My primary character has a less than optimal build (E/R), but she already has a group who's fine with that. But for my next character I wanted to go with a build that won't have troubles finding new groups to play with, hence wanting an "eligible" build. So thanks for the advice .

Nov 05, 2007, 12:10 PM // 12:10	#16
Skuld Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr] Profession: A/	Why would you want to PuG? You'll have much more fun staying as far away from them as possible!

Nov 05, 2007, 12:44 PM // 12:44	#18
Skuld Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr] Profession: A/	Fine The best profession is Not Mesmer (TM).

Nov 05, 2007, 03:19 PM // 15:19	#19
Mistress of Whispers Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2007	I've picked up Monk for my 2nd character. I really like the feel of playing one so far, and with Smiting Prayers I can still solo without getting my butt kicked.